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Re: LETS MAKE EPONA 2

#81
I leave the forums for a month and come back to find people asking for Epona 2 lmao.
Dom clans all the way baby. Don’t force no restrictions on no server. Let each server do their thing.

Re: LETS MAKE EPONA 2

#82
VR thrives on our competition because it leads people to buy platinum to PAY to be the best so I would expect that Warhammer Odyssey is going to be the exact same problems whatever pays their employees and the boss is what they are going to do. These mobile games are just a plague that has infected almost every video game in today’s modern times. They have murdered video games in today’s world. I kind of miss those days where you just have to spend $30 on a video game and enjoy it and then buy the next game but now it is get a free game and then spent thousands on it. Sure you don’t need to buy platinum but everyone wants to get the best of the best so then they spend their paychecks on stupid stuff that is available.

Re: LETS MAKE EPONA 2

#83
be0wulf wrote:VR thrives on our competition because it leads people to buy platinum to PAY to be the best so I would expect that Warhammer Odyssey is going to be the exact same problems whatever pays their employees and the boss is what they are going to do. These mobile games are just a plague that has infected almost every video game in today’s modern times. They have murdered video games in today’s world. I kind of miss those days where you just have to spend $30 on a video game and enjoy it and then buy the next game but now it is get a free game and then spent thousands on it. Sure you don’t need to buy platinum but everyone wants to get the best of the best so then they spend their paychecks on stupid stuff that is available.

Lol hardly any body buys plat on dom servers because nobody needs to. All of the plat buyers are partying on Epona where plat is actually worth buying. Seriously some of the prices on items on dom servers are down right ridiculous. Think I saw somewhere on some server that chests were being sold for like 70k each lol.

It’s like all these dom clans are chilling above deck, enjoying themselves with an easy time ingame. Easy wins over the competition, banks full of gear, walking around as cocky as one can be saying how great dominance and competition is because they’ve been having it easy, and then there’s everyone else not apart of that group getting by with the scraps left behind by the dom clans, hoping for a break where they might have a chance at more... than there’s Epona being the wooden beams to support that entire deck because their economy is great with plenty of plat buyers, keeping VR somewhat interested in continuing on with this game lol. Like I’m seriously curious to know which servers VR is getting the most revenue from, because I can bet Epona is the main one.

The ones trying to defend dominance here have all been people in the dom clan with many of them having full Dg... it’d be nice to hear from the folks on the other side of the spectrum, the ones constantly getting spanked by the dom clans lol.
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Re: LETS MAKE EPONA 2

#84
xXzeemXx wrote:Don’t force no restrictions on no server.

That’s exactly what dominance does, and how does making a server free force “restrictions” onto a server? Doesn’t that reverse all of the restrictions placed by dom clans, giving the players more freedom? ._.
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Re: LETS MAKE EPONA 2

#85
be0wulf wrote:VR thrives on our competition because it leads people to buy platinum to PAY to be the best so I would expect that Warhammer Odyssey is going to be the exact same problems whatever pays their employees and the boss is what they are going to do. These mobile games are just a plague that has infected almost every video game in today’s modern times. They have murdered video games in today’s world. I kind of miss those days where you just have to spend $30 on a video game and enjoy it and then buy the next game but now it is get a free game and then spent thousands on it. Sure you don’t need to buy platinum but everyone wants to get the best of the best so then they spend their paychecks on stupid stuff that is available.

I’m just waiting for loot box galore :lol:
I miss the OG Beltane 2013 loot boxes... everything in them could be bought elsewhere except for the white and black sunlit, which could then be traded... you didn’t have to gamble just to play the game ._.

Anyways the WH community gunna be in for a shock with the WH Casino opens ;)


Zkills wrote:
xXzeemXx wrote:Don’t force no restrictions on no server.

That’s exactly what dominance does, and how does making a server free force “restrictions” onto a server? Doesn’t that reverse all of the restrictions placed by dom clans, giving the players more freedom? ._.

It means a clan can put its restrictions on itself. It’s self imposed. Sure for those outside the clan they have to either compete or comply, but that’s no different than on Epona. Only difference is Epona is a much bigger system than your average clan.
Like I said before, just as you got plenty going to Epona, you have plenty leaving (only reason the xfer system to Epona thrives lel) because they wanted something different and the current Epona system couldn’t be changed.

This is just how MMO gaming with such severe drop rates works. It’s just a fact of the system, not a fact related to a specific server or clan style ._.
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Re: LETS MAKE EPONA 2

#86
bob the mage wrote:
Zkills wrote:
xXzeemXx wrote:Don’t force no restrictions on no server.

That’s exactly what dominance does, and how does making a server free force “restrictions” onto a server? Doesn’t that reverse all of the restrictions placed by dom clans, giving the players more freedom? ._.

It means a clan can put its restrictions on itself. It’s self imposed. Sure for those outside the clan they have to either compete or comply, but that’s no different than on Epona. Only difference is Epona is a much bigger system than your average clan.
Like I said before, just as you got plenty going to Epona, you have plenty leaving (only reason the xfer system to Epona thrives lel) because they wanted something different and the current Epona system couldn’t be changed.

This is just how MMO gaming with such severe drop rates works. It’s just a fact of the system, not a fact related to a specific server or clan style ._.

Yeah both have restrictions, but at least within Epona’s restrictions you’re basically free to do whatever you want. Join whatever clan, show up to bosses whenever you want, buy/sell/trade whatever you want, obtain gear and create whatever build you want without people criticizing you (seriously, I’ve seen more creative builds on Epona than any other server), its just a much better place to be and it’s a lot more fun having that freedom in your hands. Even if you get blacklisted it’s still not the end of the road for you because of the free market. People leave because of the increasing population and how hard it increasingly becomes to win a drop. The loot distribution is to blame for that

Unlike on dom servers where there are so many rules that most get to a point where actively logging isn’t even fun anymore. Can’t do this, can’t do that. Can’t sell this, can’t buy that... lame. Then players only have one option for a clan if they want any top end gear like Dg. Even if they don’t like that option... too bad so sad we’re the dominant ones so join us and follow our rules or get nothing at all. So the player unwillingly joins the dom clan even though they dislike it but they have no other choice, now they’re expected to spend a large chunk of their free time attending bosses if they want a remote chance at top end gear. They’re forced to attend so many bosses that they are starting to burn themselves out and start to grow to dislike the game. They get frustrated with the drop rates because they’re putting in so much work but the drop they want isn’t dropping or the drop finally dropped but someone else got it so they’re basically attending all these bosses for a clan they don’t really like for nothing because they can’t keep the loot and sell it. Goes straight to the clan bank where 95% of the drops sit and rot forever, wasting away drops that might be useful to someone on the outside. Then they eventually have had enough of it and either go inactive/quit or xfer to Epona lmao.

The most important thing though is the people, and it’s no secret that dom clans are filled with cocky assholes that don’t act like the nicest people to outsiders (or even their own clan members). Just go read the reviews for this game on the App Store, it’s truly sad to see how getting to endgame and top end gear changes someone into an arrogant *** and how many people turn away from this game because of it. Yes Epona has the same problem, but atleast on Epona you’re not forced to play under the same clan as them or forced to be in a chat group with them like you are on a dom server. Dominance just makes it worse because they have the added factor of being on top of everyone else, and some people love to absorb that and show that they’re on top.
Zkills, Proud general of the beloved KodiakReavers of Belenus, the G.O.A.T clan

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Re: LETS MAKE EPONA 2

#87
Zkills wrote:
bob the mage wrote:
Zkills wrote:That’s exactly what dominance does, and how does making a server free force “restrictions” onto a server? Doesn’t that reverse all of the restrictions placed by dom clans, giving the players more freedom? ._.

It means a clan can put its restrictions on itself. It’s self imposed. Sure for those outside the clan they have to either compete or comply, but that’s no different than on Epona. Only difference is Epona is a much bigger system than your average clan.
Like I said before, just as you got plenty going to Epona, you have plenty leaving (only reason the xfer system to Epona thrives lel) because they wanted something different and the current Epona system couldn’t be changed.

This is just how MMO gaming with such severe drop rates works. It’s just a fact of the system, not a fact related to a specific server or clan style ._.

Yeah both have restrictions, but at least within Epona’s restrictions you’re basically free to do whatever you want. Join whatever clan, show up to bosses whenever you want, buy/sell/trade whatever you want, obtain gear and create whatever build you want without people criticizing you (seriously, I’ve seen more creative builds on Epona than any other server), its just a much better place to be and it’s a lot more fun having that freedom in your hands. Even if you get blacklisted it’s still not the end of the road for you because of the free market. People leave because of the increasing population and how hard it increasingly becomes to win a drop. The loot distribution is to blame for that

Unlike on dom servers where there are so many rules that most get to a point where actively logging isn’t even fun anymore. Can’t do this, can’t do that. Can’t sell this, can’t buy that... lame. Then players only have one option for a clan if they want any top end gear like Dg. Even if they don’t like that option... too bad so sad we’re the dominant ones so join us and follow our rules or get nothing at all. So the player unwillingly joins the dom clan even though they dislike it but they have no other choice, now they’re expected to spend a large chunk of their free time attending bosses if they want a remote chance at top end gear. They’re forced to attend so many bosses that they are starting to burn themselves out and start to grow to dislike the game. They get frustrated with the drop rates because they’re putting in so much work but the drop they want isn’t dropping or the drop finally dropped but someone else got it so they’re basically attending all these bosses for a clan they don’t really like for nothing because they can’t keep the loot and sell it. Goes straight to the clan bank where 95% of the drops sit and rot forever, wasting away drops that might be useful to someone on the outside. Then they eventually have had enough of it and either go inactive/quit or xfer to Epona lmao.

The most important thing though is the people, and it’s no secret that dom clans are filled with cocky assholes that don’t act like the nicest people to outsiders (or even their own clan members). Just go read the reviews for this game on the App Store, it’s truly sad to see how getting to endgame and top end gear changes someone into an arrogant *** and how many people turn away from this game because of it. Yes Epona has the same problem, but atleast on Epona you’re not forced to play under the same clan as them or forced to be in a chat group with them like you are on a dom server. Dominance just makes it worse because they have the added factor of being on top of everyone else, and some people love to absorb that and show that they’re on top.

I wouldn’t ever want to have to buy my gear .-. Takes more work than farming for KP lel
It’s all preference. Just cuz Epona is the style you prefer doesn’t make the others evil, wrong, overly controlled, etc...
It’s all on a scale, and it’s all a matter of preference....
I’m like 99% sure we’ve been here before ._.
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Re: LETS MAKE EPONA 2

#88
Preference doesn’t matter here. What matters is the health of this game and what needs to be done to achieve success. The preference for many here is to take the easy but destructive route of dominance, which does nothing but hurt the future of this game. What if VR has major success with warhammer, then they see how this game has been on the decline, and then they ultimately decide to shut the doors on Celtic Heroes? The toxic environment fueled by dominance has caused enough damage
Zkills, Proud general of the beloved KodiakReavers of Belenus, the G.O.A.T clan

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Re: LETS MAKE EPONA 2

#89
Zkills wrote:Preference doesn’t matter here. What matters is the health of this game and what needs to be done to achieve success. The preference for many here is to take the easy but destructive route of dominance, which does nothing but hurt the future of this game. What if VR has major success with warhammer, then they see how this game has been on the decline, and then they ultimately decide to shut the doors on Celtic Heroes? The toxic environment fueled by dominance has caused enough damage

Just cuz you don’t enjoy a game mode doesn’t make it destructive... honestly... you aren’t some god that establishes an objects normative value just by your opinion ._.
Dom servers have lasted a long time and vast majority of players prefer servers set up that way.

Just because you disagree with it doesn’t mean it needs to be changed... you are one player, start realizing that you don’t speak for the whole community mr lorax
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Re: LETS MAKE EPONA 2

#90
bob the mage wrote:
Zkills wrote:Preference doesn’t matter here. What matters is the health of this game and what needs to be done to achieve success. The preference for many here is to take the easy but destructive route of dominance, which does nothing but hurt the future of this game. What if VR has major success with warhammer, then they see how this game has been on the decline, and then they ultimately decide to shut the doors on Celtic Heroes? The toxic environment fueled by dominance has caused enough damage

Just cuz you don’t enjoy a game mode doesn’t make it destructive... honestly... you aren’t some god that establishes an objects normative value just by your opinion ._.
Dom servers have lasted a long time and vast majority of players prefer servers set up that way.

Just because you disagree with it doesn’t mean it needs to be changed... you are one player, start realizing that you don’t speak for the whole community mr lorax

I’m yet to hear an argument defending dominance other than “preference”. Preference is not a strong argument. Everything I’ve stated have been facts. Dominance has worked for a long time because everyone has simply accepted dominance since it was one of the first systems created when the lock mechanic was introduced. That doesn’t mean it’s a positive system because this game has failed to grow under dominance. Part of the reason is the lack of content, the other is people simply leaving the game at a higher rate on dominant servers. The game has been out for 8 years... we should be massive, but we’re not and it’s clear based off of the facts stated that dominance has been apart of the issue.

Epona isn’t just successful in its xfers, but the amount of new players going there and staying as well.
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