yakat wrote:Orian wrote:I honestly think that us rangers should get a dps boost up to one similar to rogues if nothing else. Yes, we have their role and in ch it is a more supporting one. But from there, I feel like our skills don't really outline what we are supposed to be like. We have a bunch of helpful skills, but there is really no way to combine them into something halfway decent along with doing decent dps. We either are super supporting with minimal dps or have ok dps and minimal support. I feel like if I ranger decides to sacrifice a majority of his support skills in order to do more damage, that should be respected and we should get a boost to our auto damage overall. However, that is the least that should be done. Instead, we should be able to do decent dps and be able to support some as well, and that really isn't possible right now. Rangers are supposed to be resourceful and smart, yet there longbows can still inflict major damage. That is what they generally and usually are. Right now:
The Ranger is either a supportive, resourceful, tactician with a small hunting bow,
The Ranger has a longbow without the right size arrows, severely limiting the damage that he/she can inflict.
Right, so we have our play (ch) but we are missing one of the five leads, the ranger...
And you can't have a show when you are missing a character.
Except if your ch.
Well, if you look at warriors, they can go full strength all damage skills and have the worst damage. Hybrid builds with tank skills? There's no such thing as good dps . Mages can't go support and dps either. Rogues can't go support and have best dps. Druids can still heal with good dps. So yeah, rangers can't really have all support skills and have good dps but they aren't exactly special.
I never said anything about having good dps and good support skills as well. We just need a middle ground where we have some support and do decent dps as well. Right now that's not possible really. You can only have one or the other. That's why I agree with SamySamSamBoss2000 that we should have our dps boosted a lot when we sacrifice basically all of our skills to do dps:
SamySamSamBoss2000 wrote:We don't want rangers to be able to have good support and great dps, we want the option to have dps. (period) So a full dps ranger, to have a little less dps then a full dps rogue. Rogues when they go support still have good dps. A support rogue will have, something like, poison weap, expose weakness, smoke bomb, SS and quick strike plus a dex build. When rangers go support they have what, sharpen weaps, Light heal, bolas? Steady aim, Sharpshot? they can heal, increase dps by a little, kite and do crap dmg. Even our supporte skills aren't that good (we can heal) When we go str we have Steady aim, sharpen weaps, double shot, long shot, light heal? Still not very good dps, just auto's. Mages can definitively support and dps. Fire mage can have lure of assassin, Lure of fire, attune, firebolt and fire storm. Of course its not tons of support, but dps druids will only have one or two heals, so same thing. Warriors, well I dont play warrior, too boring, but you got shatter, double, giant swing, frenzy, sweeping blow and other tank skills. (Maybe they're dps could be increased a little, but definitively should still be at the bottom.