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What is the purpose of group exp penalty?

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:53 am
by Zkills
I don’t understand the purpose of this. Kinda odd that a game that heavily promotes player to player cooperation would penalize players for group leveling. I understand the gold penalty but I truly think the exp penalty is completely pointless and annoying... leveling from 1-221 with a group of 6-8 players would be sooooooo much more enjoyable than leveling solo or with another partner, because most can agree that leveling is the most slow and boring aspect of this game (especially when going for endgame the first time)

Remove it plz. It would make leveling a Druid actually fun (and maybe more people won’t reject leveling with them lol... I may or may not be guilty of this .-.)

Re: What is the purpose of group exp penalty?

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:20 am
by Dark Kitty
Are you talking about the grouping bonus? They are bonuses not penalties.

Re: What is the purpose of group exp penalty?

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:02 am
by Armo
With two people you get 130% xp split to two people, so 65% xp.

Assuming you’re more efficient with your kills, you’re still definitely better off.

Re: What is the purpose of group exp penalty?

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 5:45 am
by Corrupt
+1. Seems the mods aren’t sure

Re: What is the purpose of group exp penalty?

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:15 am
by Zkills
Armo wrote:With two people you get 130% xp split to two people, so 65% xp.

Assuming you’re more efficient with your kills, you’re still definitely better off.

Would be way better if you simply got the same amount of exp when group leveling as when you level solo... you’re still getting less exp per kill and once you go over 3 people you really start to lose out on exp (unless if everyone is bad lol). You’re still getting penalized nonetheless and it shouldn’t be like that... I see no reason why it’s even a thing

Even with the “bonus” large group leveling sucks

Re: What is the purpose of group exp penalty?

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:46 am
by Dark Kitty
Zkills wrote:
Armo wrote:With two people you get 130% xp split to two people, so 65% xp.

Assuming you’re more efficient with your kills, you’re still definitely better off.

Would be way better if you simply got the same amount of exp when group leveling as when you level solo... you’re still getting less exp per kill and once you go over 3 people you really start to lose out on exp (unless if everyone is bad lol). You’re still getting penalized nonetheless and it shouldn’t be like that... I see no reason why it’s even a thing

Even with the “bonus” large group leveling sucks

The only disadvantage I see with large lixing groups is that you can run out of mobs to kill (assuming no one's slacking off). Your idea means that you're essentially giving players an option to have an x8 lix bonus - no doubt players will abuse this - and to me that's not a good idea.

Re: What is the purpose of group exp penalty?

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:54 am
by Skerwald
See it this way. You kill 1 mob a minute and your lix partner does too. Together you kill 2 mobs a minute. Normally you get say 5000 xp for that. With the group bonus you get 5000/2 × 1.3= 3250 xp. But you kill 2 mobs in the same time you would've killed 1 mob, so you get 3250 × 2= 6500 xp. That's 1500 more than you would've done alone. Of course it won't be as perfect as this always, if you get worse xp, then your lix partner is simply leeching on you. But imo lixing together is very beneficial, you won't burn through as many restos/idols as you would alone while you get more xp and in large groups you can often drop the hp/haste lix and still get pretty good xp.

Re: What is the purpose of group exp penalty?

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:50 am
by Zkills
Question still hasn’t been answered... what’s the point of it?

I already understand how it works and it’s not what the thread is about. I will always see it as penalizing because I would always get more exp solo than leveling with a partner unless if I’m lixing purely on 4* mobs. Druids suffer from this the most

Re: What is the purpose of group exp penalty?

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:31 am
by Corrupt
Zkills wrote:Question still hasn’t been answered... what’s the point of it?

I already understand how it works and it’s not what the thread is about. I will always see it as penalizing because I would always get more exp solo than leveling with a partner unless if I’m lixing purely on 4* mobs. Druids suffer from this the most

I like the idea a lot. Levelling should be both cheaper and easier however idk if VR would be down to reduce the number of plat items needed to get eg even though it may encourage more people to get eg and therefore more plat on raids in the future. +1 regardless

Re: What is the purpose of group exp penalty?

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2018 11:00 am
by Banzai416
Zkills wrote:Question still hasn’t been answered... what’s the point of it?

I already understand how it works and it’s not what the thread is about. I will always see it as penalizing because I would always get more exp solo than leveling with a partner unless if I’m lixing purely on 4* mobs. Druids suffer from this the most

It keeps the game balanced. Back in the day many had the same complaints so otm implemented group bonus. Remove xp/gold being shared you could get 120k from one gold boss if you fill grp with alts. As for xp players would be forced to group lvl then which is not what everybody wants. Atm lvling in group is still better unless you’re stacked in lux and hero combos.