To the player base.
Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:35 am
NOTE: I put this in general discussion because well, it's general and about the game. Not really the in-game content but about the game as a whole. I put this specifically here because i wanted the most amount of people to see it as possible.
A few definitions for those who don't know:
AFK = Away from keyboard. This is a term used in many games that means that the task requires minimal attention allowing you to do other things like watch a tv show etc.
P2P = Pay to play
P2W = Pay to win
IRL = In real life. Or real life in simple terms.
MMOs = Massive multiplayer online game (celtic heroes is an MMO)
WoW= World of warcraft (a popular MMO)
I suggest you skip to the end if you cannot be bothered reading. However i plead you to take a moment to consider what i have to say.
I love how almost every single player complains about the game. I recently saw a post of someone asking if they should return to the game and i felt like everyone was Ctrl C + Ctrl V'ing their old posts. Complaining about the same unfathomable as usual.
I also saw a few posts flog to the screen as soon as the servers were shut down. Admins tried justifying the reason behind the fault and a few of you gathered your pitchforks and brands.
There's no doubt that there are flaws in this game. But every game has its flaws. It's not as easy as you think.
For instance the whole issue with "Pay to win"... A game with a low population and player base MUST incorporate some elements of real world currency if it wishes to stay online. There MUST be some form of reliable income and it's up to you guys to decide. Pay to win or P2P? I'm sure everyone would rather have some form of system that gives players a slight advantage if they pay real $ rather than having every single player have to pay to play the game. That's a silly topic that's brought up so often in topics like this.
If you don't want to pay, don't. It's that simple, you'll just have to grind harder to get the items you want. There's another topic of debate. "This game is too grind heavy". Well no unfathomable. If you look at the content, grinding is most of it, and it has to be that way or else EVERYONE will be higher level and have tons of gold. This issue was big in a game called Runescape. I'll give you an example:
in runescape there is a skill called runecrafting. This skill took EXTREME amounts of time to reach the max level of 99, everyone in the community complained about how annoying the skill was to train because you could not AFK it like some other skills and the exp rates were terrible. If you saw someone wearing the runecrafting cape you would respect them, they would put hours into the game to achieve the max level (obviously excluding the bots and third-party softwares that leveled up for you which were against game terms). After all the complaining, the developers of runescape listened and added a much MUCH quicker, and AFK method of training that skill and guess what? The amount of people with runecrafting cape became so common that it actually took over some other skills in terms of amount of people with that skill maxed on the leaderboards.
So ask yourself. Do you want that? Do you want to see the majority of the population be level 200+ eliminating any form of early game, and any form of respect for the grind that you previously put in?
To the lower levels: Think about what you do when you see someone level 230. I bet you stop and look at their gear, and all their lux items that apply bonuses like 150 STR which is more than you have with all your levels and stat points. I bet you also sometimes think about hoping to reach that stage in the game but feel as if it will take years and maybe hundreds of real life money. Well yeah. Like in any game, reaching the END can be tough. It can require HOURS of grinding and HUNDREDS of $. But theres your option. If you don't want to spend money... well... Don't. If you don't want to grind and think that reaching level 230 isn't worth the hours well... Cya later.
A side note for those who are ungrateful: I've mentioned this earlier but i've been playing this game since 2011, specifically during the christmas event in 2011 when jack frost gave u that snowman hat (can't remember all the details, that was 5 years ago). I've suffered the same feelings as you, sometimes i feel i need to invest a lot of IRL money to actually get anywhere, and i quit half way through leveling because i cannot be bothered. I've quit this game about 4 times now, and i've always returned. Why? because i look at other games. Specifically MMOs. Do the same.
Look at all the MMOs out there with an undeniably large player base. World of Warcraft. There are probably hundreds of thousands of people playing this game, and guess what. It's subscription based. Blizzard is money hungry and theres no doubt that WoW is a good game but so is Celtic Heroes. Only difference is that YOU HAVE A CHOICE to invest money. That's what matters. If this game wasn't free from the start, i wouldn't have started playing it all those years back. I wouldn't be typing this right now. I've shared a lot of my life playing this game (i'm only 17 years old) and i still don't understand how people manage to find ways to complain. It's as if every game always has a reckoning force against it. The players are never satisfied. It's pretty sad honestly.
The amount of effort the admins and developers put into this game is unreal. The game has beautiful graphics, sick combat, arguably decent pvp (Although it's very uncommon) and unfathomable amounts of items. I've watched this game grow, i've watched how much the effort has gone to make the game better for YOU GUYS. The players. Yet the hate to gratitude ratio is about 100 negative posts and complaints to that 1 positive remark and word of thanks.
And also. To those who are arrogant and miss the point. No. I'm not brown-nosing the admins. I genuinely think that they don't deserve the unfathomable that a few of you give them considering the amount of effort that is put in.
I'd like to hear the arguments but let's try keep this topic civilized please.
EDIT: Excuse any grammatical errors or spelling errors. I was typing this in a rush.
A few definitions for those who don't know:
AFK = Away from keyboard. This is a term used in many games that means that the task requires minimal attention allowing you to do other things like watch a tv show etc.
P2P = Pay to play
P2W = Pay to win
IRL = In real life. Or real life in simple terms.
MMOs = Massive multiplayer online game (celtic heroes is an MMO)
WoW= World of warcraft (a popular MMO)
I suggest you skip to the end if you cannot be bothered reading. However i plead you to take a moment to consider what i have to say.
I love how almost every single player complains about the game. I recently saw a post of someone asking if they should return to the game and i felt like everyone was Ctrl C + Ctrl V'ing their old posts. Complaining about the same unfathomable as usual.
I also saw a few posts flog to the screen as soon as the servers were shut down. Admins tried justifying the reason behind the fault and a few of you gathered your pitchforks and brands.
There's no doubt that there are flaws in this game. But every game has its flaws. It's not as easy as you think.
For instance the whole issue with "Pay to win"... A game with a low population and player base MUST incorporate some elements of real world currency if it wishes to stay online. There MUST be some form of reliable income and it's up to you guys to decide. Pay to win or P2P? I'm sure everyone would rather have some form of system that gives players a slight advantage if they pay real $ rather than having every single player have to pay to play the game. That's a silly topic that's brought up so often in topics like this.
If you don't want to pay, don't. It's that simple, you'll just have to grind harder to get the items you want. There's another topic of debate. "This game is too grind heavy". Well no unfathomable. If you look at the content, grinding is most of it, and it has to be that way or else EVERYONE will be higher level and have tons of gold. This issue was big in a game called Runescape. I'll give you an example:
in runescape there is a skill called runecrafting. This skill took EXTREME amounts of time to reach the max level of 99, everyone in the community complained about how annoying the skill was to train because you could not AFK it like some other skills and the exp rates were terrible. If you saw someone wearing the runecrafting cape you would respect them, they would put hours into the game to achieve the max level (obviously excluding the bots and third-party softwares that leveled up for you which were against game terms). After all the complaining, the developers of runescape listened and added a much MUCH quicker, and AFK method of training that skill and guess what? The amount of people with runecrafting cape became so common that it actually took over some other skills in terms of amount of people with that skill maxed on the leaderboards.
So ask yourself. Do you want that? Do you want to see the majority of the population be level 200+ eliminating any form of early game, and any form of respect for the grind that you previously put in?
To the lower levels: Think about what you do when you see someone level 230. I bet you stop and look at their gear, and all their lux items that apply bonuses like 150 STR which is more than you have with all your levels and stat points. I bet you also sometimes think about hoping to reach that stage in the game but feel as if it will take years and maybe hundreds of real life money. Well yeah. Like in any game, reaching the END can be tough. It can require HOURS of grinding and HUNDREDS of $. But theres your option. If you don't want to spend money... well... Don't. If you don't want to grind and think that reaching level 230 isn't worth the hours well... Cya later.
A side note for those who are ungrateful: I've mentioned this earlier but i've been playing this game since 2011, specifically during the christmas event in 2011 when jack frost gave u that snowman hat (can't remember all the details, that was 5 years ago). I've suffered the same feelings as you, sometimes i feel i need to invest a lot of IRL money to actually get anywhere, and i quit half way through leveling because i cannot be bothered. I've quit this game about 4 times now, and i've always returned. Why? because i look at other games. Specifically MMOs. Do the same.
Look at all the MMOs out there with an undeniably large player base. World of Warcraft. There are probably hundreds of thousands of people playing this game, and guess what. It's subscription based. Blizzard is money hungry and theres no doubt that WoW is a good game but so is Celtic Heroes. Only difference is that YOU HAVE A CHOICE to invest money. That's what matters. If this game wasn't free from the start, i wouldn't have started playing it all those years back. I wouldn't be typing this right now. I've shared a lot of my life playing this game (i'm only 17 years old) and i still don't understand how people manage to find ways to complain. It's as if every game always has a reckoning force against it. The players are never satisfied. It's pretty sad honestly.
The amount of effort the admins and developers put into this game is unreal. The game has beautiful graphics, sick combat, arguably decent pvp (Although it's very uncommon) and unfathomable amounts of items. I've watched this game grow, i've watched how much the effort has gone to make the game better for YOU GUYS. The players. Yet the hate to gratitude ratio is about 100 negative posts and complaints to that 1 positive remark and word of thanks.
And also. To those who are arrogant and miss the point. No. I'm not brown-nosing the admins. I genuinely think that they don't deserve the unfathomable that a few of you give them considering the amount of effort that is put in.
I'd like to hear the arguments but let's try keep this topic civilized please.
EDIT: Excuse any grammatical errors or spelling errors. I was typing this in a rush.