Celtic Heroes

Bill nye should have read this thread or perhaps just been better at researching how these types of debates work. Bill is a great guy and does a lot for science. He knows a fair bit about it even if evolutionary biology isn't his focus.

Bill made a big mistake though. He actually debated that idiot and made the whole thing seem like a legitimate debatable subject. He brought facts to a crazy fight and appealed to people's sense of logical reason that has been bound since birth having been malformed into a grotesque symbol of being proud at not having to think for oneself. He didn't use anecdotal stories and use popular public figures to promote his point which would have worked far better. Sadly there is no more chance at convincing these people of what is real than our ancestors had getting those wealthy Chinese women to walk again. The only real solution is to label religious indoctrination as child abuse and force people not to shove it down children's brains until they have some ability to think properly for themselves. But that's never going to happen. Hell this kind of legimitization is just what helps get that crap put into American science classrooms.

In the end all Bill did was put hundreds of thousands of dollars into those idiots pockets so they can make a bigger ark and animate thier sea monsters. Even worse much of the money will go to lobby thier whacko historical science textbooks into public schools. It was just one more determined flush of the toilet with America stuck in the bowl just about to go down the tubes compared to the rest of the educated first world countries. It's really quite sad.

Bill nye should have read this thread or perhaps just been better at researching how these types of debates work. Bill is a great guy and does a lot for science. He knows a fair bit about it even if evolutionary biology isn't his focus.

Bill made a big mistake though. He actually debated that idiot and made the whole thing seem like a legitimate debatable subject. He brought facts to a crazy fight and appealed to people's sense of logical reason that has been bound since birth having been malformed into a grotesque symbol of being proud at not having to think for oneself. He didn't use anecdotal stories and use popular public figures to promote his point which would have worked far better. Sadly there is no more chance at convincing these people of what is real than our ancestors had getting those wealthy Chinese women to walk again. The only real solution is to label religious indoctrination as child abuse and force people not to shove it down children's brains until they have some ability to think properly for themselves. But that's never going to happen. Hell this kind of legimitization is just what helps get that crap put into American science classrooms.

In the end all Bill did was put hundreds of thousands of dollars into those idiots pockets so they can make a bigger ark and animate thier sea monsters. Even worse much of the money will go to lobby thier whacko historical science textbooks into public schools. It was just one more determined flush of the toilet with America stuck in the bowl just about to go down the tubes compared to the rest of the educated first world countries. It's really quite sad.

Just want to make a quick point: ken ham was right: we all interperate the same evidence differently. An then we look at each other and say wow i feel bad for them; they are so blinded. So don't worry the feeling is mutual. The way a creationist looks at evolution is the pretty much the same way an evolutionist looks at creation. Maybe now you see kind of how it is.

Btw i do agree with ken ham obviously on pretty much everything.

I still have about 30 mins to go in the vid (around the part where the more rapid back and forth begins) but so far, Ken Ham has not actually offered any real evidence and keeps falling back on "we can't physically observe the past." The thing is, with that view point, the assertion that there exists a god is the positive statement. It is the burden of those who claim there is a god to prove it using evidence. Otherwise, we fall back on what we can test and physical evidence that allows us to predict the past and the future.

First off plus3 i was talking about scientists not preachers interpreting the evidence differently. Im not talking about Christians and atheists; im talking about creationists and evolutionists.

Second off i don't know why you say that ur kids have to put up with bull in school(assuming you live in the US i apologize if you live elsewhere). It is evolution that is being forced into our children's minds not creationism(at least in public school). If you are sending ur kids to a private school which teaches creationism then that is totally your responsibility. You had the choice whether to put them there or not.

Thirdly, if i remember correctly you were one of the ones who were labeling most Christians as hateful bigots. So first u complain about how hateful we are, and now you complain that some Christians are concerned enough about your soul to come and talk to you about it? I mean they are just trying to keep you from going to hell. So which do you want them to be hateful or kind?

Fourth, pig man some of the arguments bill nye used, i could have refuted. Ken made very good points. Bill Nye also made good points.

Fifth, no matter what you guys say, most people's minds are not going to be changed by this thread no matter how good the points were for each side. Not just pointing fingers here; this goes for me too.