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Re: Server kill number 50 of Bloodthorn... still no helmet

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 3:15 pm
by bob the mage
Epona isn't an EG clan. He was referring to a single EG clan that has 80 mains actively killing BT.
I still had Epona in mind tbh :?
While Epona is the odd server out, it is still a server and should be considered with regards to how changes will impact game play imo. In this sense, Epona usually functions as either the upper or lower limit, and at times even an outlier in considering gameplay trends and the effects different changes would have on gameplay.

Most of my gameplay experience was on arawn, where at peak years we had 80 mains covering different time zones, but after playing on some other worlds I have seen that this is not usually the case.

Re: Server kill number 50 of Bloodthorn... still no helmet

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 4:40 pm
by krummy9552
Epona isn't an EG clan. He was referring to a single EG clan that has 80 mains actively killing BT.
I still had Epona in mind tbh :?
While Epona is the odd server out, it is still a server and should be considered with regards to how changes will impact game play imo. In this sense, Epona usually functions as either the upper or lower limit, and at times even an outlier in considering gameplay trends and the effects different changes would have on gameplay.

Most of my gameplay experience was on arawn, where at peak years we had 80 mains covering different time zones, but after playing on some other worlds I have seen that this is not usually the case.
80 mains is quite a stretch for a lot of servers (generally the ones who are less represented on forums) at one point our clan had mabye 20-30 tryely “active” mains if that and many were forced to dual/trilog to even attempt gele (this wasn’t that log ago) we have recently expanded however we still have nowhere near 60 active mains much less 80 (one clan controlled server aswell)

Re: Server kill number 50 of Bloodthorn... still no helmet

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:14 pm
by Warsong
Epona isn't an EG clan. He was referring to a single EG clan that has 80 mains actively killing BT.
I still had Epona in mind tbh :?
While Epona is the odd server out, it is still a server and should be considered with regards to how changes will impact game play imo. In this sense, Epona usually functions as either the upper or lower limit, and at times even an outlier in considering gameplay trends and the effects different changes would have on gameplay.

Most of my gameplay experience was on arawn, where at peak years we had 80 mains covering different time zones, but after playing on some other worlds I have seen that this is not usually the case.
80 mains is quite a stretch for a lot of servers (generally the ones who are less represented on forums) at one point our clan had mabye 20-30 tryely “active” mains if that and many were forced to dual/trilog to even attempt gele (this wasn’t that log ago) we have recently expanded however we still have nowhere near 60 active mains much less 80 (one clan controlled server aswell)
Like my clan. We probably have about 20-25 active mains that attend bt. The other 10 are other people’s alts dual logging just so we can kill. Myself included. I wish we had even 40-50 active mains. I’d never log my ranger again lol.

Re: Server kill number 50 of Bloodthorn... still no helmet

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:32 pm
by bob the mage
I still had Epona in mind tbh :?
While Epona is the odd server out, it is still a server and should be considered with regards to how changes will impact game play imo. In this sense, Epona usually functions as either the upper or lower limit, and at times even an outlier in considering gameplay trends and the effects different changes would have on gameplay.

Most of my gameplay experience was on arawn, where at peak years we had 80 mains covering different time zones, but after playing on some other worlds I have seen that this is not usually the case.
80 mains is quite a stretch for a lot of servers (generally the ones who are less represented on forums) at one point our clan had mabye 20-30 tryely “active” mains if that and many were forced to dual/trilog to even attempt gele (this wasn’t that log ago) we have recently expanded however we still have nowhere near 60 active mains much less 80 (one clan controlled server aswell)
Like my clan. We probably have about 20-25 active mains that attend bt. The other 10 are other people’s alts dual logging just so we can kill. Myself included. I wish we had even 40-50 active mains. I’d never log my ranger again lol.
In that spirit though where everyone is pretty much multilogged, I’d argue that you deserve more than one BT helm.


Also the numbers above assume that each helm is exactly what people need, and there are no excessive duplicates... which we know will happen.
But ya, 80 mains is probably too far of a stretch

Re: Server kill number 50 of Bloodthorn... still no helmet

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:37 pm
by Warsong

80 mains is quite a stretch for a lot of servers (generally the ones who are less represented on forums) at one point our clan had mabye 20-30 tryely “active” mains if that and many were forced to dual/trilog to even attempt gele (this wasn’t that log ago) we have recently expanded however we still have nowhere near 60 active mains much less 80 (one clan controlled server aswell)
Like my clan. We probably have about 20-25 active mains that attend bt. The other 10 are other people’s alts dual logging just so we can kill. Myself included. I wish we had even 40-50 active mains. I’d never log my ranger again lol.
In that spirit though where everyone is pretty much multilogged, I’d argue that you deserve more than one BT helm.


Also the numbers above assume that each helm is exactly what people need, and there are no excessive duplicates... which we know will happen.
But ya, 80 mains is probably too far of a stretch
I honestly think there’s just too much of a gap for new players. Plat or no plat. Imagine if they added even more mobs past 220? Insane amount of time just lvling to get to endgame. I think the game will get a boost in old players though after update. I’m actually waiting for that HOPING people like Aileron and his clan come back for some healthy competition :D gear is more even between us now since they have like 15+ sets and we have 3 but it’d be fun to have lock battles with all them for some BT helms!

Re: Server kill number 50 of Bloodthorn... still no helmet

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:41 am
by Armo
80 mains is quite a stretch for a lot of servers (generally the ones who are less represented on forums) at one point our clan had mabye 20-30 tryely “active” mains if that and many were forced to dual/trilog to even attempt gele (this wasn’t that log ago) we have recently expanded however we still have nowhere near 60 active mains much less 80 (one clan controlled server aswell)
Doesn't help when our chief goes inactive. :(

Love ya Nuke, if you're out there.

Re: Server kill number 50 of Bloodthorn... still no helmet

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:46 am
by Shivahh
Epona isn't an EG clan. He was referring to a single EG clan that has 80 mains actively killing BT.
Yes but there's still a demand for every endgame main in epona for the helm, and I doubt that you could estimate how many mains average per raid in every server.
40 helms are ridiculous to "someone's" eyes but theyre class specific meaning it could be 30 druid helms and 10 etc.

Re: Server kill number 50 of Bloodthorn... still no helmet

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 7:34 pm
by H3ROBigG
Epona isn't an EG clan. He was referring to a single EG clan that has 80 mains actively killing BT.
Yes but there's still a demand for every endgame main in epona for the helm, and I doubt that you could estimate how many mains average per raid in every server.
40 helms are ridiculous to "someone's" eyes but theyre class specific meaning it could be 30 druid helms and 10 etc.
Ok, but we can't cater the game toward the top 2 most unusually active servers, epona and arawn. Some type of server transfer system needs to exist to rebalance servers.

The class restrictions could be removed from bt helms which is something I suggested during the beta. Even though a void night helm isn't best in slot for a rogue, at least they have the option to use it when there's nothing else available. I can see the bt warrior helms being used by rogues/rangers in a clan with minimal dps Warrior mains.

Re: Server kill number 50 of Bloodthorn... still no helmet

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:33 pm
by Songnaam
40 players x .25 hours x 50 kills = 500 hours = zero helm. 200 drops 50% of them banked because they are not an upgrade. An example of a poorly thought out item, the druid strangling vines reduced cool down ring for a damage over time spell. Thanks for addressing our issues. We have high hopes that under new management CH will thrive

Re: Server kill number 50 of Bloodthorn... still no helmet

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:51 pm
by Zyz
Epona isn't an EG clan. He was referring to a single EG clan that has 80 mains actively killing BT.
Yes but there's still a demand for every endgame main in epona for the helm, and I doubt that you could estimate how many mains average per raid in every server.
40 helms are ridiculous to "someone's" eyes but theyre class specific meaning it could be 30 druid helms and 10 etc.
Ok, but we can't cater the game toward the top 2 most unusually active servers, epona and arawn. Some type of server transfer system needs to exist to rebalance servers.

The class restrictions could be removed from bt helms which is something I suggested during the beta. Even though a void night helm isn't best in slot for a rogue, at least they have the option to use it when there's nothing else available. I can see the bt warrior helms being used by rogues/rangers in a clan with minimal dps Warrior mains.
The easiest way would just to make an all purpose melee and all purpose caster helm. Caster helms would ass fire, ice, and mgc ability so it wouldn't matter if druid or mage used it. The other helm could have dagger, axe, bow, sword, spear, and hammer on it to give a weapons boost that was applicable to all classes.