MrsDredd wrote: Furyion wrote:
You are justifying sociopathic behavior because a dom clan has built an organization that is winning, and they don’t give out their loot to others not in their clan?
This is mildly off-putting.
You want to change a dom clan? Be good enough to get in the clan. Earn your way up just like they did. Become a leader that people respect and value. Make the organization better. Change things because people want them changed, not because your feelings are hurt.
Or compete. Be the better organization. Be the place people want to see win. Their organization wasn’t made in a day. Yours won’t be either.
But in regards to this thread...
You know, manipulation and deception are also available. You can use that effort to sow dissent and discord to wedge a split in sects of the clan to hope it crumbles like the stellar individual you are. You, in a general sense, of course. I’m actually a bit disappointed this has been met with little criticism.
You are assuming that every group that fights to power does so for the right reasons. There has been plenty of cases in history and in game where this is not the case. They are not immune to being evil you know, and even using evil tactics against evil people can be a morally good thing. Note the repetition of the word evil. There are some worlds where the dom clan system does work, but there are also worlds where it does not due to corruption/exclusion. Maybe you haven't ran into this on your world, but I have on mine. Lugh used to be one of the best servers, but ever since people tried to turn it into a dom clan world it basically turned into trash. People are so stubborn about their drops, that they are willing to damage(and probably eventually kill) their world over them.
Lugh is not trash. We have a healthy growing dominant clan which takes down all bosses except Dino. Gele and BT on day of spawn.
You have to question why someone cares about people being ‘stubborn’ with their drops. If it’s because they want to kill endgame bosses with them, then ok I can empathise. But if it’s simply to line their own pockets by selling those drops overpriced then those people should stop the charade of caring about the new players.
The current dom clan was previously the underdog clan. We persevered and stuck it out and now we are dom. it can be done. I think the problem with underdog clans is they usually fall apart through in fighting and greed. Not always but often.
Lugh is trash, I can say that as I am on said world(and have been longer then any other currently active player). There is absolutely no reason to come here, as we don't have anything to offer that another world couldn't do better. It was clearly not ment to be a clan ran world, but since certain people tried to make it so, it crashed pretty badly.
The thing about drops is to give some people hope for progression who otherwise wouldn't have any. I have seen people rejected for little to no reason before, and they instantly have a way harder life just because they stepped on someones foot, or they didn't kiss up to people. On top of that, for those who do join, they will likely be last in line for the good gear. Sounds fair to some, but I wouldn't like knowing that as a fresh new recruit that I might not even ever get good gear as someone who was in longer/more liked then me could always be ahead of me permanently. That is why I always favored the dicing system as you are directly rewarded by showing up at bosses, no strings attached. You may think that drop selling is a bad thing, but its really not. If you level up past your old gear, or get new gear to replace it, you can recoup some money to purchase more lix/restos/other consumables to boss/level more. It lets old gear get distributed instead of rotting away in a bank, and makes life easier on people economically, nonplats especially. The prices wouldn't be high either, supply and demand. In fact, the prices are great for gear on the black market(talking about gold) right now, and thats a very good business. Some people from the clan have been leaking unnoticed gear for that purpose... But in respect to fairness, I still support dicing, as it is a better system for our world, even though it would be worse for me, and I supported it back in the day for the same reason.
We know the clan worked its way up to battle the big bad dom clan, and won, yeah. But said clan does not have to be exactly like its predecessors, no one actually has to fight now you know. If there was actually any care for the server and its wellbeing here, then the leaders would surrender and work with the other clans in order to unify lugh. But instead, I guess a toxic warzone is preferred, as people tend to agree with stuff in their favor instead of whats right.
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Furyion - 190 Ice Mage
Lavalord - 60 PvP Warrior
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